'[The kids] basically cried the whole way': Entitled mother doesn't understand why other airline passengers are upset with her noisy kids, thinks it's worse for her

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    r/AmltheAQole . 4 hr. ago Jazzlike_Editor_639 AITA for telling my sister that people are allowed to look annoyed by her toddler and baby on a plane and that it's entitled to say they should feel sorry for her because "it's even worse for me" because she made the a choice to take them on the plane? Note, I'm well aware fathers are equally responsible for their children and her husband was with her on the flights, but he wasn't present for the conversation and it was only with my sister so focuses
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    My sister "Chelsea" has two children, 22 months and 6 months, and last month her and her husband decided to go on a holiday to Europe before they'd have to buy a seat for the kids. She said the kids were "terrible flyers" and basically cried the whole way on both trips (we are from Australia) and wouldn't settle.
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    She has made a lot of passive aggressive posts on social media about how entitled non parents are about kids on planes and how people need to have more sympathy for mums because they are suffering more than they are because their babies won't settle and being a parent is hard. She's been kinda....whiney in general since she became a mum, always complaining about hard it is and she makes a lot of snide comments to me about how it "must be nice" that I sleep in etc because I've chosen not to have
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    The plane situation came up when I saw her last night. She started talking about it again and I asked her if something specific happened or if someone was to her about the kids and she admitted that they weren't really, people just looked visibly annoyed as they kids refused to settle and on one of the flights, the person next to her asked the flight attendant if there was anywhere else she could sit after a couple of hours and looked really disappointed when told there wasn't as the flight was
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    I said that people have the right to be annoyed at a baby crying the whole way from Melbourne to Singapore on a flight that leaves at 1am in the morning and lands at like, 9am, and she went off saying that they don't and her kids have a right to fly. I told her I never said they didn't, just that people have the right to not be thrilled to be seated next to her
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    infant who cries the whole way and that they don't have to feel more sorry for her than themselves because she is responsible for bringing the kids onto the plane and created the situation. I also said that no one but her and her husband are obligated to look after their children on a flight and it isn't fair to expect the people around her to help with them.
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    She stormed out and complained to my parents who backed my up, but our other sister started dogpiling me too so I just went home. AITA?
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    OP has offered the following explanation for why they think they might be the aSole: To be fair to her, it does kinda when you can tell people are annoyed with you.
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    theworldisonfire8377 NTA you were right. No one owes her anything and people do get annoyed at kids on flights because they usually cry and fuss and everyone on the plane is forced to tolerate it because there is no where else to go. Your sister needs to get a grip and realize she isn't entitled to 4 hr. ago
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    other passengers helping her nor is she entitled to everyone being over-the-top understanding of her situation. Show her the little care packages that some parents make for other passengers.. not because she should do that, but so that she sees that other
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    parents understand it isn't enjoyable for the other people on the plane. If she is going to choose to fly with little kids who don't tolerate flying well, she needs to also be able to deal with the unhappy passengers she is subjecting her screaming children to. 2.6K Reply ↑ Share
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    UnderstandingOld7408 4 hr. ago . I read article once where a woman was furious that a baby was on the plane and the parents hadn't made care packages for the rest of the passengers. What a World. 4 723 Reply Sha
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    Last-Actuary-8118 . 4 hr. ago NTA. Your kids are adorable and the centre of the world......to you, not the rest of the world. To the rest of the world, they are just another two kids, and ones that are being disruptive and annoying at that point. Babies cry but it doesn't mean it isn't annoying.
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    e Parents are not entitled to sympathy and help. If you can't handle dealing with them on a flight on your own, don't take them on a plane. Simple. 4902 Reply Share
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    Caffeinated Mum 3 hr. ago Sorry, definitely NTA. She's very entitled. What did you think would happen when you take two kids under 2 on a super long plane ride? Yes, they will be very uncomfortable, and yes, so will the parents and everyone else around them. It's not easy parenting (I know myself), but the sister sounds selfish here. Did she really expect people around her to be excited? 177
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    hoginlly 3 hr. ago · Edited 3 hr. ago Lol imagine complaining because you're a parent of 2 kids under 2 and can afford a trip from flippin Australia to Europe and think people should have sympathy for you! Disclaimer: I am a mum of a 10 month old. There's plenty of times I have sympathy for parents. During their round- the-world trip is not one of them! 210 Reply Sha
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    Correct-Jump8273 Partassipant [4] How does she know that the side-ee is coming from someone who is not a parent. That aside, people are allowed to look displeased when a baby cries, sometimes facial expressions are not voluntary. She needs to get over it & ignore the looks. ΝΤΑ 286 . 4 hr. ago Reply Share
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    UnderstandingOld7408 4 hr. ago I look visibly annoyed at people on planes who snore, people who eat loudly with their mouthes open or people who play noisy games without headphones. NTA 4212 Reply ↑ Share
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    DryCell4889. 6 hr. ago NTA, she has some to talk about entitlement when she's acting like the world owes her anything for having kids. If I spend my money and book a flight, I'm going to expect luxury and comfort. Screaming kids is the last thing on my "need on a plane" list. 250 Reply ↑ Share
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    Gloomy_Ruminant 6 hr. ago Aficionado [16] ΝΤΑ I have taken multiple trans- Atlantic flights with small children and it definitely but the idea that other passengers can't also think it is baffling. Flying is miserable all around. 139 ↓ Reply Share
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    . selcouth_abcdefghi 6 hr. ago NTA. As a mum with a toddler, i know how hard it is to travel with kids. When I went to Australia with just me and my son, I dont expect anyone to help me during the flight coz I am responsible for my son and it was my choice to bring him along with me. Tell your sister that if she has plan to travel with her kids, she must prepare necessary things to help them sleep during flights or entertain them so they wont cry and bother other people. 134 ↓ Reply ↑ Share
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    HeirOfRavenclaw 7 hr. ago Professor Emeritass [89] ΝΤΑ She doesn't like to hear the truth. She just wants pity, which she doesn't deserve. You've done nothing wrong. 126 Reply Share
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    LilBitofSunshine99 6 hr. ago Enthusiast [8] NTA. Nobody forced her to have children and nobody should be expected to control involuntary facial expressions just to make her feel validated. She should focus that energy on her child instead of whining like a baby 485 Reply 1 Share
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    Ok_Smell_8260. 6 hr. ago Certified Proctologist [29] NTA. Pretty selfish to take small children on planes - and it's not like they're going to remember the long haul holiday. ↑ 66 Reply ↑ Share
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    Mountain-goblin69420 6 hr. ago Partassipant [1] NTA. Yeah "whiny" is right. Your sister is just an entitled parent. She's probably doubling down on "the other people were the problem, not me" to delude herself into not feeling embarrassed. ↑ 61 + Reply ↑ Share

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